I'm not a VR fan. I'm more interested in 4K video recording, higher bitrate, smaller file size HEVC codec for the camera (as an option). Or, 1080p even higher bitrate HEVC video, with same or smaller file sizes as current h.264 files. It would drastically improve the video quality of the camera. Just like their NX mirrorless cameras. Computers and smart TVs nowadays are much more HEVC friendly.
What kills me about Sammy is how they don't take full advantage of their market leadership in smartphones. MOST of their phones on the market support HEVC encode/decode in addition to high quality audio encode. Why the heck haven't they built a iMessage/Facetime competitor yet??? ChatOn was a complete joke. Why aren't taking advantage of their vast ecosystem to build vertically integrated services to their devices? SMH...
Unlimited HEVC HDR encoding enabled with IOS at 2160p60 would be a real dream, however I won't believe it until I see it. The Snapdragon 835 encoder is still limited to 2160p30, I don't know if they will make different feature set for different SOC... I think the reason why no one is supporting HEVC enconding is just one: Royalties.
Probably the case. Samsung has been holding back with Galaxy S/Note features just for the sake of having 2 versions with different processors. They're not even taking full advantage of their processors. It's frustrating/stupid management decisions. Oh well...
Nope, we need both to enhance quality, and Yes I hope someday smartphones will be able to capture in AV1 format with Dolby Vision HDR 12bit 4:4:4 4320p240 with both 5 axis IOS and EIS.
It kills every other SOC's, Mali G-71 MP8 outperformed Adreno 530 , Adreno 540 has same amount of processing core as Adreno 520 and has slightly improvement over it. Now consider it has 20 cluster of G71.
Shaping up to be the best SoC of 2017, as was its predecessor in 2016. Can't wait to see comparisons with the SD835, though guessing which is better won't be that hard.
I reckon, same old same. CPU will be a bit better and more efficient than the 835 but graphics performance will be a lot better in the SD. I love better graphics performance but I don't have much time to play games in mobile. I am now considering alternative flagship SoCs on 10nm.
Unfortunately, all the 10nm production belongs to Samsung. It might take some time as there are no announcement of availability of other Socs.
"but graphics performance will be a lot better in the SD"
Adreno is better in benchmarks, Mali is better in games. Benchmarks don't stress the same 3D features needed for games. This time however, the GPU in Exynos might be faster in both.
I think Exynos8895 support HSA is a very important thing.This is the first mobile processor to support HSA, Samsung is actively developing AI, rumors that we will be able to use this Bixby: "the album all the pictures with umbrella search out." I think this requires a better integration of GPU and CPU, HSA is a new revolution in mobile processors, the use of GPU efficiency, reduce processor power consumption, and better support AI and deep learning.
What good is the greatest SoC when you can only in an Edge phone which turns you into a digital slave of the manufacturer instead of empowering you?
Sure, everbody who wants an Edge, should get one, but I want a flat screen and I couldn't care less for a full metal body.
I don't care for the heartbreak which comes from shattered screens and bent metal so I'll stick any mobile device into a silicion protector and add an extra glass layer against them nasty scratches while I enjoy passing on older devices with a new battery to family and friends, with a new, patched and rooted custom ROM.
VR as a bit of fun, but using VR kit for a giant virtual home cinema (3D or not) on a plane or lying on your hotel bed is a serious benefit of high-res, high-quality screens (without edges) and with a bluetooth keyboard and mouse can use that power to run a rather potent desktop, perhaps with a bit of RemixOS enhancements and a Remote-Desktop client to help.
It's incredible how Samsung is working to improve the hardware without thinking about how to make it more useful. I guess I'll just stick to my Note 3 until they learn or somebody else does.
"It's incredible how Samsung is working to improve the hardware without thinking about how to make it more useful." --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- It may take a while.... Streaming VR @ 4K/120hz will only work when the deals are signed with NVidia / Microsoft / Sony / etc etc
As it is, 4K VR @ 120hz is really only 2K per eye, which is as good as it gets for any current tethered VR headset
Unless the VR providers (NVidia / Microsoft / Sony / Valve) can "soon" make their own cellphones with specs like this, those deals WILL be made
We need to start somewhere
Hopefully it will be much more useful a year from now But that's up to Samsung
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Bullwinkle J Moose - Thursday, February 23, 2017 - link
4K Video @ 120hzAbout time, now lets get this VR thing going!
lilmoe - Thursday, February 23, 2017 - link
I'm not a VR fan. I'm more interested in 4K video recording, higher bitrate, smaller file size HEVC codec for the camera (as an option). Or, 1080p even higher bitrate HEVC video, with same or smaller file sizes as current h.264 files. It would drastically improve the video quality of the camera. Just like their NX mirrorless cameras. Computers and smart TVs nowadays are much more HEVC friendly.What kills me about Sammy is how they don't take full advantage of their market leadership in smartphones. MOST of their phones on the market support HEVC encode/decode in addition to high quality audio encode. Why the heck haven't they built a iMessage/Facetime competitor yet??? ChatOn was a complete joke. Why aren't taking advantage of their vast ecosystem to build vertically integrated services to their devices? SMH...
Bullwinkle J Moose - Thursday, February 23, 2017 - link
Not a VR Fan?You mean Not Yet!
A year ago we were waiting for Pascal Graphics to game @ 4K / 120hz
A year from now we will be streaming 4K/120hz VR games from our gaming computer directly to the cellphone strapped to our face
It sure beats strapping a 30 pound desktop computer to our backs for VR gaming without a tether cord
....and you will be wondering why you ever thought iMessage/Facetime without the $100 VR conversion kit was your main concern TODAY
THIS is why I created application and game streaming!
SydneyBlue120d - Friday, February 24, 2017 - link
Unlimited HEVC HDR encoding enabled with IOS at 2160p60 would be a real dream, however I won't believe it until I see it. The Snapdragon 835 encoder is still limited to 2160p30, I don't know if they will make different feature set for different SOC... I think the reason why no one is supporting HEVC enconding is just one: Royalties.lilmoe - Friday, February 24, 2017 - link
Probably the case. Samsung has been holding back with Galaxy S/Note features just for the sake of having 2 versions with different processors. They're not even taking full advantage of their processors. It's frustrating/stupid management decisions. Oh well...Lolimaster - Friday, February 24, 2017 - link
What we need is the best 1080p 60fps quality you can get.SydneyBlue120d - Tuesday, February 28, 2017 - link
Nope, we need both to enhance quality, and Yes I hope someday smartphones will be able to capture in AV1 format with Dolby Vision HDR 12bit 4:4:4 4320p240 with both 5 axis IOS and EIS.Araa - Friday, February 24, 2017 - link
VR is the new 3DGustavoar - Thursday, February 23, 2017 - link
The compare table is wrong, Exynos 8895 has UFS 2.1 and not 2.0. You can check for the proof in the official website: http://www.samsung.com/semiconductor/minisite/Exyn...Ryan Smith - Thursday, February 23, 2017 - link
Already corrected.=) Though for a while it was UFS 2.0 on Samsung's site.hung2900 - Friday, February 24, 2017 - link
I'm still waiting for Andrei's review on Samsung SoC. It's very sad that no review for last year beast 8890.Howard72 - Thursday, February 23, 2017 - link
It kills every other SOC's, Mali G-71 MP8 outperformed Adreno 530 , Adreno 540 has same amount of processing core as Adreno 520 and has slightly improvement over it. Now consider it has 20 cluster of G71.R0H1T - Thursday, February 23, 2017 - link
In what world does the G71 MP8 beat the Adreno 530? Alternate facts perhaps ~ https://gfxbench.com/compare.jsp?benchmark=gfx40&a...Howard72 - Friday, February 24, 2017 - link
http://www.notebookcheck.net/ARM-Mali-G71-MP8.1852...http://www.anandtech.com/show/10871/the-huawei-mat...
Michael Bay - Thursday, February 23, 2017 - link
Too bad the phone will explode.londedoganet - Thursday, February 23, 2017 - link
"Too bad"? Username does NOT check out.babadivad - Thursday, February 23, 2017 - link
NiceprisonerX - Thursday, February 23, 2017 - link
Bring on the cheap Exynos 7420 based SBCs!lilmoe - Thursday, February 23, 2017 - link
Shaping up to be the best SoC of 2017, as was its predecessor in 2016. Can't wait to see comparisons with the SD835, though guessing which is better won't be that hard.zodiacfml - Friday, February 24, 2017 - link
I reckon, same old same. CPU will be a bit better and more efficient than the 835 but graphics performance will be a lot better in the SD. I love better graphics performance but I don't have much time to play games in mobile. I am now considering alternative flagship SoCs on 10nm.Unfortunately, all the 10nm production belongs to Samsung. It might take some time as there are no announcement of availability of other Socs.
lilmoe - Friday, February 24, 2017 - link
"but graphics performance will be a lot better in the SD"Adreno is better in benchmarks, Mali is better in games. Benchmarks don't stress the same 3D features needed for games. This time however, the GPU in Exynos might be faster in both.
Aslanor - Thursday, February 23, 2017 - link
I think Exynos8895 support HSA is a very important thing.This is the first mobile processor to support HSA, Samsung is actively developing AI, rumors that we will be able to use this Bixby: "the album all the pictures with umbrella search out." I think this requires a better integration of GPU and CPU, HSA is a new revolution in mobile processors, the use of GPU efficiency, reduce processor power consumption, and better support AI and deep learning.lolipopman - Friday, February 24, 2017 - link
This MP20 GPU is expected to be as powerful as the Tegra X1 GPU.abufrejoval - Saturday, February 25, 2017 - link
What good is the greatest SoC when you can only in an Edge phone which turns you into a digital slave of the manufacturer instead of empowering you?Sure, everbody who wants an Edge, should get one, but I want a flat screen and I couldn't care less for a full metal body.
I don't care for the heartbreak which comes from shattered screens and bent metal so I'll stick any mobile device into a silicion protector and add an extra glass layer against them nasty scratches while I enjoy passing on older devices with a new battery to family and friends, with a new, patched and rooted custom ROM.
VR as a bit of fun, but using VR kit for a giant virtual home cinema (3D or not) on a plane or lying on your hotel bed is a serious benefit of high-res, high-quality screens (without edges) and with a bluetooth keyboard and mouse can use that power to run a rather potent desktop, perhaps with a bit of RemixOS enhancements and a Remote-Desktop client to help.
It's incredible how Samsung is working to improve the hardware without thinking about how to make it more useful. I guess I'll just stick to my Note 3 until they learn or somebody else does.
Bullwinkle J Moose - Saturday, February 25, 2017 - link
"It's incredible how Samsung is working to improve the hardware without thinking about how to make it more useful."---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
It may take a while....
Streaming VR @ 4K/120hz will only work when the deals are signed with NVidia / Microsoft / Sony / etc etc
As it is, 4K VR @ 120hz is really only 2K per eye, which is as good as it gets for any current tethered VR headset
Unless the VR providers (NVidia / Microsoft / Sony / Valve) can "soon" make their own cellphones with specs like this, those deals WILL be made
We need to start somewhere
Hopefully it will be much more useful a year from now
But that's up to Samsung